View Full Version : Might be goin' drag radials...
Mitch_Peoples
January 7th, 2002, 10:10 AM
Can't afford extra rear rims for DOTs and bias ply streets wear way too fast. I need something to drive to and from the track and 2-3 times a week.
I have 15X8" welds now. I know I can't go big (325) like the radial racers do, but I don't want to settle for 275/50/15 because it's only a 26" tall tire. I've looked at a 295/65/15, which will fit on my rim, give me a 10" tread width, but it's almost 30" tall!!! The 325/50/15 stands 28" tall, so would an extra 1.9" hurt that much? I would go with a 4:10 rear gear or more to compensate. BTW, we've discussed my car before, it's a blown AOD '93 LX that 60's like a pig (1.6x). I wish BFG made a 295/60/15 drag radial; that would be perfect.
Any help would be appreciated.
Stangfireman
January 7th, 2002, 11:25 AM
I realize you're wanting the widest tire possible, but the BFG 275/6015 measures 8.8 wide and 28 inches tall. Might be something to look out.
Mitch_Peoples
January 7th, 2002, 12:46 PM
Lebanon, PA? I used to attend a big scratch bowling event there in a former life :D
Yep, I looked at the 275's. I'm just a little concerned about blowing the tires off too easily. I don't make a whole lot of hp, but the best run with the Hoosier DOT's was a 10.80 @ 128. We never could make them spin, even with a transbrake and leaving at 4500 rpm. I've never tried drag radials, so I don't know how well they hold.
Thanks!
Jason Reiss
January 8th, 2002, 01:08 AM
I second the Fireman's motion. You can't run more than a 275 tire on that rim width, and being 28 inches tall, you can't fit much taller or wider without a lot of BFH work in the wheelwells. Just keep in mind, the Drag Radial from BFG isn't good for more than about 5000 miles...or much less if you beat on them. I think the 275/60/15 would probably be your best choice if you don't want to run the Hoosiers. BTW, have you given the Mickey T ET Street a thought? From what I've seen....they work very well, and seem to hold up about as good as the BFG tires....
Jason Reiss
January 8th, 2002, 01:10 AM
Forgot to add this....for the money you'll spend in tires per year, it might just be advantageous to spend the $$$ and spring for the new wheels. That way, you can just run a full slick...
Mitch_Peoples
January 8th, 2002, 09:24 AM
Hey Ten Sec:
I've already "massaged" my inner wheel wells with a BFH to fit the 27/11.5/15 Hoosier QT Pro's. I ran them all summer for two seasons, both street and strip. I prolly drove the 'stang 2-3 days a week to and from work (short trips) and made about 30 passes at the track.
I want to stay in the DOT classes at the local tracks 'cause I'll get blown away in the power adder/slick class. No fun racing if you don't have a chance to win.
I'm not sure where to go at this point. Spence Hart has swapped a couple of emails with me about BFG's and he's done really well in the radials class. I might have to put a few other upgrades aside and get another set of rims like you suggested; maybe the 15x9's to save a couple of $$$ and put the 325's on 'em.
Jason Reiss
January 8th, 2002, 10:43 PM
I might have to put a few other upgrades aside and get another set of rims like you suggested; maybe the 15x9's to save a couple of $$$ and put the 325's on 'em.
Now you're thinking! No sense trying to make it go faster unless you can make it hook.....
:p
FlashBack
January 8th, 2002, 10:52 PM
Basically the same tires right? Anybody ever go from a Drag to a Street...gain or lose et or no difference? Contemplating a switch to the ET Street the same size as a 28x10.5 slick, to be 'legal' tire wise for some DOT racing.
Later, G.
perky
January 9th, 2002, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by FlashBack
Basically the same tires right? Anybody ever go from a Drag to a Street...gain or lose et or no difference? Contemplating a switch to the ET Street the same size as a 28x10.5 slick, to be 'legal' tire wise for some DOT racing.
Later, G.
I went the other way with no gain it the 60ft.. My Et's Hooked like a champ but I wore them out quickly...
So I saw no gain from a et street to a slicks.. if the pressure is right you should be fine..
J.Bouvier
January 11th, 2002, 01:25 AM
We've gone 10.6's with 275's on a 8inch wheel. Thats leaving on a 150hp shot and adding another 100hp shot about 20 to 30 feet out. Without a problem!
Ron95gt
January 11th, 2002, 06:31 AM
Has anybody used the BFG 325/50/15's
on 10" rims? I have an s-trim, 4:10's,
and a 3000 stall, and need more tire
to get thru the 1/4 for True Street
this summer. I was thinking of 6.5"
bs and dump the quad shock. Since the
fenderwells are bigger on the sn95's
I was hoping this might work. I have
the 275/50/15's on 8" welds now. Also
anybody know where I can view of pic
of this combo on a car? Thanks in advance
for any help.
calypso347
January 11th, 2002, 05:24 PM
I think you guys are putting to much emphasis on the tire when it's the suspension that gets the car to hook,look a Chris Littles ride,he has a ton of horsepower and is hooking it on radials,I don't care what size they are,which is unbelievable in my opinion.My point is get your suspension perfect than worry about tire size.
Ron95gt
January 11th, 2002, 05:32 PM
I hear ya. But isn't the most et
reduction for the money, a slick?
Also, I don't want to turn much over
6,000 going thru the traps in the
1/4. I either have to change rearends
or get TALL tires to do that. Money
is also a factor. Maybe I should just
drop back to 3:73's or 3:55's. Hmm,
calypso347
January 11th, 2002, 05:43 PM
My opinion for what it's worth is,you will never know how fast you can get your car to go without experimentation.I know money is a big concern,but how do you think these NHRA guys go so fast with so little?,they try different things,don't overlook the small stuff.My 1/2 cent.
FlynBrian
January 13th, 2002, 09:49 PM
Ron95gt
I have 15by10 with 6.5bs on my 87coupe with a 10.5 by28 M/T slick rolled fender lip fits beautiful.
A guy at the local track where I'm from has 15by10 with 6.5bs on his 89coupe with the 325/50/15's DR's fits nice and looks awesome. but the lips are rolled and some inner wheel massaging has to be done, I would think they would fit on a SN95 car bigger wheelwells without rolling the lip. Maybe someone will chime in thats done it on a SN95.
I saw UPR's SN95 Procharged Stang run at Orlando Speedworld a year and 3 months ago, Willie Figueroa driving, he busted out a 8.67 at over 160mph, I about fell over, the most awesome pass I ever saw on a Drag Radial, I made a point to go look at the car after that pass, I asked, Joe who owns the car, the size of the Drag Radials he said they had tried to get some 325/50/15's but all they could get that weekend, was the 295/65/15's thats what was on the car when it went 8.67 he won the Drag Radial class, it was the Fastest Streetcar Shootout they have every year in October. I know for a fact that was the size I visually looked at them and they were 295/65/15's Just Imagine what he might have run if he had gotten ahold of a set of 325/50/15's that is a Wicked Fast Stang!!!:D
sprayndahousedwn
January 14th, 2002, 12:34 PM
Could be wrong, but I believe Chris Little posted on another message board that his best 60s are in the 1.50s. When he gets it down into the 1.30s, it'll really be nuts then.
nochnce
January 15th, 2002, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by FlynBrian
Ron95gt
I have 15by10 with 6.5bs on my 87coupe with a 10.5 by28 M/T slick rolled fender lip fits beautiful.
A guy at the local track where I'm from has 15by10 with 6.5bs on his 89coupe with the 325/50/15's DR's fits nice and looks awesome. but the lips are rolled and some inner wheel massaging has to be done,
Are you sure about the other guy running the 325/50/15 on a 10 inch wheel with 6.5 backpspacing? It's just that most comments I hear is that the tire is too wide for that much backspacing. From the measurements MT and BFG gives on their tires, the 325s are over an inch wider (section width) than the 28x10.5 slicks. My 28x10.5 fit fine on my 15x10 (6.5 bs) Draglites but I haven't gotten the drag radials yet to do any fitting. I'm also going to do some experimenting with the drag radials on my 15x9s with 5.5 backspacing.
Ron95gt
January 15th, 2002, 09:27 PM
Thanks for the replies.
Nochnce, I guess you have a fox body?? I know the sn95's are suppose to have more room, but that's alot of dinero to shell out without being able to find somebody that has used it. I don't want the 5.5" bs cause it would probably look tacky, hanging out the fender and all. I don't guess BFG would know specific applications? Too much to ask for I'm sure.
nochnce
January 15th, 2002, 09:31 PM
Yeah, I have a fox body...an 88.
But unless you can find someone with a SN95 that has done it, you may be forced to do some experimenting.
Maybe try phoning UPR and ask them about their red SN95 that Figueroa drives. Pretty sure that car is doesn't have any sort of tubbing on it and they have run it with drag radials. Maybe see what they say? It's worth a shot...
Ron95gt
January 16th, 2002, 06:19 AM
Thanks for the idea. Anybody have their number or website address? A friend of mine told me to check out these message boards due to alot of drag radial guys frequenting it. But after looking reader's rides and the forums, it appears that I'm outta place, having an sn95 stang.
PurpleLX
January 16th, 2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Ron95gt
Thanks for the idea. Anybody have their number or website address? A friend of mine told me to check out these message boards due to alot of drag radial guys frequenting it. But after looking reader's rides and the forums, it appears that I'm outta place, having an sn95 stang.
Take a look at our Mustang Links page, Ron.. you should be able to find whatever you are looking for in there..
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