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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
I see you are using the ultralite rods? I dont think they are recomended for nitrous use, but I could be wrong. I know my builder recomended if I do spray it too keep it to a small shot (200hp). Did you by upgrade the rod bolts? I upgraded mine to the L19's.
I am using their lightweight I beam rods. Probe makes some great stuff. I have had the same crank in 2 engines now.
Do yall sell that vacuum pump setup you have on the engine? If so what kind of deal can I get on it 
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
Maybe I'm not reading the graph correctly, but the power and torque are supposed to cross at 5250 rpm., not 5600?
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December 7th, 2008, 03:44 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
Hi Brian...looks like you been busy. Whats the deal on my Spec clutch disc refund?
Shaun... from the UK
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December 7th, 2008, 03:56 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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Maybe I'm not reading the graph correctly, but the power and torque are supposed to cross at 5250 rpm., not 5600?
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A quick inspection of the vertical axis identified the scales are not the same. 1/4 of the distance along the horizontal axis to 5,589 rpm (from 5,141 rpm) is 5250. If you pick the values for tq and hp, they are the same at ~476.
I have a few of questions for Texas_Hot_Rods. How heavy is this combo, and how do you work the vacuum pump deal with the internal oiling system? I mean in terms of keeping high enough oil pressure? I assume, BTW, the engine dyno was performed without vacuum to seal the rings. Did you run it with vacuum, and if so, how much, and what happended to your oil pressure?
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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I see you are using the ultralite rods? I dont think they are recomended for nitrous use, but I could be wrong. I know my builder recomended if I do spray it too keep it to a small shot (200hp). Did you by upgrade the rod bolts? I upgraded mine to the L19's.
I am using their lightweight I beam rods. Probe makes some great stuff. I have had the same crank in 2 engines now.
Do yall sell that vacuum pump setup you have on the engine? If so what kind of deal can I get on it
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The rods will hang at a small shot but the motor was set up with Jay SPECIFICALLY for a N/A application. IF...it goes low 10's then we'll most likely spray it with a small shot to see the single digits just for timeslips.
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December 8th, 2008, 03:08 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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Maybe I'm not reading the graph correctly, but the power and torque are supposed to cross at 5250 rpm., not 5600?
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SORRY... Posted the Pics of the Graph with CORRECTED Numbers which factor whatever the Correction Factor was that day on that pull from the software which reads Temp, Barro, Humidity, ETC. IF you look at the screen print you'll see WCF (Factor) in the Top Right Hand Boxes and that stands for Weather Correction Factor from what I've been told. I never quote those numbers as Actual Readings are what I focus on for tuning.
Point is, they multiply the ACTUAL number by that WCF number to get the Corrected number which it is set at for the Default in the Graph Mode. That extra step of multiplying the Actual numbers may throw off the correlation between the HP/TQ for the Crossing point.
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December 8th, 2008, 03:18 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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A quick inspection of the vertical axis identified the scales are not the same. 1/4 of the distance along the horizontal axis to 5,589 rpm (from 5,141 rpm) is 5250. If you pick the values for tq and hp, they are the same at ~476.
I have a few of questions for Texas_Hot_Rods. How heavy is this combo, and how do you work the vacuum pump deal with the internal oiling system? I mean in terms of keeping high enough oil pressure? I assume, BTW, the engine dyno was performed without vacuum to seal the rings. Did you run it with vacuum, and if so, how much, and what happended to your oil pressure?
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It was dyno'd with the pump set up as in the pics. IT is a belt driven adjustable vacuum set up that relieves crank case pressure from the valve cover. It then distributes it to a catch can if anything pulls through to keep it from oiling the track or tires.
We usually see very little problems associated with this system as Aerospace Components has some really nice products. If you want more info on it please email, PM or call me directly to dicuss.
As for the oil pressure this system is independant of the internal oiling. We usually utilize a std volume pump unless the application dictatues a HV or something else. On this pull the pressure stayed steady and came up a bit from idle of coarse but wasn't jumping around.
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December 8th, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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Hi Brian...looks like you been busy. Whats the deal on my Spec clutch disc refund?
Shaun... from the UK
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Seems like the OPer overlooked this post.
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December 8th, 2008, 03:48 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
Rex347,
what did you're combo dyno at RW? Was that with a stick or the C-4 set up? Also, what elevation is your track at that you ran the 9's? Jsut curious as we haven't had a chance to get out with this one yet...poor weather conditions.
I'm hopping to see some mid 10's at our local track elevation (4300 ft) with a DA of 5800+ sometimes.
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December 8th, 2008, 03:58 PM
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Seems like the OPer overlooked this post.
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December 8th, 2008, 04:07 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
Brian, I have the same Aerospace pump (wet sump 3 vane I'm guessing on yours) on my new combo and wonder how you feel about cruising them around on the street a little. Don't want to burn up the pump. What's been your experience with these?
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December 8th, 2008, 04:55 PM
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Seems like the OPer overlooked this post.
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Already got Shaun taken care of. He's a really great customer and we'll be looking for some great numbers out of his set up once he gets it dialed.
No Harm here from THR, even though it's a little off-topic. All's well that ends well right?
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December 8th, 2008, 04:57 PM
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Brian, I have the same Aerospace pump (wet sump 3 vane I'm guessing on yours) on my new combo and wonder how you feel about cruising them around on the street a little. Don't want to burn up the pump. What's been your experience with these?
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I've run several on the street but not for any long trips like out of state or anything. I can call Scott at Aerospace for advise if you need.
I'd imagine that it's built pretty durable to endure the High HP/ High RPM set ups so cruising it at moderate RPM/Speeds shouldn't effect in my opinion. Great question, as I plan on driving this alot to shows, local races, and cruise nights.
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December 8th, 2008, 05:27 PM
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I've run several on the street but not for any long trips like out of state or anything. I can call Scott at Aerospace for advise if you need.
I'd imagine that it's built pretty durable to endure the High HP/ High RPM set ups so cruising it at moderate RPM/Speeds shouldn't effect in my opinion. Great question, as I plan on driving this alot to shows, local races, and cruise nights.
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What I plan to do is just shoot a couple shots of oil into it at stops since I fear it won't have enough oil mist going through it at lower rpm to be properly lubricated over time. I got it for the track but have been getting curious how much street driving I could get away with.
I know they're durable at the track. I bought this one from fast88/blk88/Rich that he was using on his last motor that turned over 9k rpm for a couple of seasons. He said he put about a teaspoon full of oil in it before every run and it pulled the same vacuum as the day it was new until he took it off and sold it to me. I think that's pretty incredible.
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Already got Shaun taken care of. He's a really great customer and we'll be looking for some great numbers out of his set up once he gets it dialed.
No Harm here from THR, even though it's a little off-topic. All's well that ends well right?
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Yeh, were doing good, just crossed wires across the pond.
nice one Brian
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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As for the oil pressure this system is independant of the internal oiling. We usually utilize a std volume pump unless the application dictatues a HV or something else. On this pull the pressure stayed steady and came up a bit from idle of coarse but wasn't jumping around.
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I have seen oil pressure losses on my own stuff when pulling high enough vacuum levels to make a hp difference. Easily corrected with the external oil pump, so that's what I was wondering about.
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December 8th, 2008, 07:27 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
Mines at Sea Level. Mine laid down 474hp@8k at the rear wheels. That was through a C-4 with a very lose convertor and on slicks. The Clash was pretty decent air on sunday being 200-300ft but there was also a pretty stiff headwind. It knocked the mph down a few on a couple of runs.
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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I have seen oil pressure losses on my own stuff when pulling high enough vacuum levels to make a hp difference. Easily corrected with the external oil pump, so that's what I was wondering about.
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How high of a vacuum level are we talking and how much oilpressure drop are we talking?
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
The guys I know that are running them on high rpm n/a motors are making 15-17 and in some cases 20 in of vacuum. They are seeing upwards of 20psi reduction in oil pressure. This is easily taken care of with the external oil pump. I would imagine that some amount of trial and error with shimming of an internal pump would be required to get it right.
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December 8th, 2008, 09:29 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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Mines at Sea Level. Mine laid down 474hp@8k at the rear wheels. That was through a C-4 with a very lose convertor and on slicks. The Clash was pretty decent air on sunday being 200-300ft but there was also a pretty stiff headwind. It knocked the mph down a few on a couple of runs.
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That's AWESOME REX. I knew you were up there pretty strong with your little SBF as well. You're probably a solid 40 RW up from mine with having those numbers through the C-4 and a loose convertor.
As for the clash, I know exactly what you mean, we had another customer up there (Kevin Keiser) running an 86 Red GT with a 342 cube stock bore stroker and a 200 shot with all our suspension and C-4 set up that broke his first 9 sec pass and entered the single digit club on DRAG RADIALS! His car was featured in MM&FF a few issues back.
Anyway, great to see another Texas Stang out there rocking a small block that's running numbers! I can't wait to get up there to one of Freddy's next events and get some real numbers out of the car once we get off the mountain.
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December 8th, 2008, 09:33 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
In regards to Kevin's first 9 sec pass on a 200 shot, BEFORE we get all the comments on why it only when 9's on a 200 shot, his car is full weight and race weight is around 3400 lbs on Drag Radials. I know Rex and alot of others here are running 9's on motor but they are alot more of a drag set up rather than Kevin's 86 GT which is every bit a street car with alot of weight that is running the nitrous to move that weight!
Hopefully this makes sense. Keep getting it done guys! Let's see a thread on all the High RPM 347's out there or SBF's in general with what you're all running to get low 10's/high 9's.
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I stopped and spoke to Kevin for a little while. Nice guy and SUPER Clean car. I WISH my car looked like that. We plan on painting mine over the winter. I will be switching to a 84 nose since I couldnt find a 83 locally.
We need to get a little N/A shoot out together. Theres another one going together as we speak. Maybe meet up at SA for a little grudge race. I need to get a little weight out of mine. I was still 165lbs over weight for Cheap Street.
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I stopped and spoke to Kevin for a little while. Nice guy and SUPER Clean car. I WISH my car looked like that. We plan on painting mine over the winter. I will be switching to a 84 nose since I couldnt find a 83 locally.
We need to get a little N/A shoot out together. Theres another one going together as we speak. Maybe meet up at SA for a little grudge race. I need to get a little weight out of mine. I was still 165lbs over weight for Cheap Street.
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Yeah that would be great to get a few SBF's on motor for a heads up style shootout. Or we could do a Ford vs ?? SB shoot out heads up style to see what the brand x's or mopars have in similar cubes on motor. Should make for some fun racing and an excuse to get to the track!
Kevin's pretty kewl indeed and his car is incredible all around. Very detailed in every way. I respect him keeping it more of a cruiser that runs's the number as well.
If you need paint, let us know, we have a killer painter and a new Down Draft booth. We'll hook a brother up too! What color did you have in mind?
Also, I have an 83 coupe if you need the nose. I'll let it go so I can have an excuse to do another 90+ conversion. It's a 4 banger and running in great shape.
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December 8th, 2008, 10:37 PM
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Yeah that would be great to get a few SBF's on motor for a heads up style shootout. Or we could do a Ford vs ?? SB shoot out heads up style to see what the brand x's or mopars have in similar cubes on motor. Should make for some fun racing and an excuse to get to the track!
Kevin's pretty kewl indeed and his car is incredible all around. Very detailed in every way. I respect him keeping it more of a cruiser that runs's the number as well.
If you need paint, let us know, we have a killer painter and a new Down Draft booth. We'll hook a brother up too! What color did you have in mind?
Also, I have an 83 coupe if you need the nose. I'll let it go so I can have an excuse to do another 90+ conversion. It's a 4 banger and running in great shape.
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We're painting it hugger orange, with black accents. My cousin paints so the price is gonna be right (free).
Maybe we could put something together. I know its a pretty long haul for yall to SA. I thought it was a little more in the middle. We could figure something out.
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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The guys I know that are running them on high rpm n/a motors are making 15-17 and in some cases 20 in of vacuum. They are seeing upwards of 20psi reduction in oil pressure. This is easily taken care of with the external oil pump. I would imagine that some amount of trial and error with shimming of an internal pump would be required to get it right.
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I'm planing to set the relief valve to 10-12" Hg. I'll consider myself lucky if my engine is sealed up enough to pull that below the 7,000 rpm shift point I'll start with. I hope it doesn't hurt oil psi too much. Only running a standard volume and standard pressure Percision oil pump. Only one way to find out.
Brian, I'd love to see some video of this car at the track if you can manage it. I also use the same cam guy as you and have been very happy with the results of the products I've purchased from him. His customer service is the best I've experienced in this hobby by far.
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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I'm planing to set the relief valve to 10-12" Hg. I'll consider myself lucky if my engine is sealed up enough to pull that below the 7,000 rpm shift point I'll start with. I hope it doesn't hurt oil psi too much. Only running a standard volume and standard pressure Percision oil pump. Only one way to find out.
Brian, I'd love to see some video of this car at the track if you can manage it. I also use the same cam guy as you and have been very happy with the results of the products I've purchased from him. His customer service is the best I've experienced in this hobby by far.
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I'll try to get it out to the track this weekend if the weather holds. It may not run the number as we're in the mountains for elevation but it'll get us a chance to dial the suspension in and 60ft the car. Then we can travel to sea level for some hits for numbers. I'd really like to see low 10's on motor with this set up. If it'll run 10.60's at elevation I'd be content. 10.50's and I'll be excited!
I'm also running a std oil pump set up and it's worked for us on alot of these street/strip set ups. As mentioned we can do specific pump combos for motors build application specific but this was intended to be an all motor beast with mostly off the shelf stuff sans the cam from Jay and the Faceplated Trans from Libertys. Either way I'll try to get some more vids up with a better mic on the street/strip. Thanks!
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San Antonio is about 8.5 to 9 hrs with truck and trailer. The only mid point for us is Midland/Odessa which is about 4 hrs but it's higher elevation. I really want to get to a sea level track for numbers when it's cool out so the temps are in our favor as well. I heard the headwind was pretty strong at points but the cars were still running numbers.
We'll see how it rolls out. How long does SA stay open during the winter months? Weather permitting year round?
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I'll try to get it out to the track this weekend if the weather holds. It may not run the number as we're in the mountains for elevation but it'll get us a chance to dial the suspension in and 60ft the car. Then we can travel to sea level for some hits for numbers. I'd really like to see low 10's on motor with this set up. If it'll run 10.60's at elevation I'd be content. 10.50's and I'll be excited!
I'm also running a std oil pump set up and it's worked for us on alot of these street/strip set ups. As mentioned we can do specific pump combos for motors build application specific but this was intended to be an all motor beast with mostly off the shelf stuff sans the cam from Jay and the Faceplated Trans from Libertys. Either way I'll try to get some more vids up with a better mic on the street/strip. Thanks!
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I hear you on the elevation. I used to run my old combo at LACR before it closed. At sea level you'd typically run three to five tenths faster. Elevation makes a big difference!
I'd love to see a sintered iron disc, fully adjustable pressure plate, and an aluminum flywheel in this rig. Something similar to a McLeod Soft Lok. I just got a similar clutch and flywheel set up from Advanced Clutches. I'll tighten it up for street driving and loosen it up at the track to prevent excessive rpm drop on the launch and shift. Are you going to do any type of data logging on this car? If so I'd love to see the charts as well as the slip and video. Yeah, I'm asking a lot. Sorry!
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
Ever wonder what a small block at 7 grand sounds like on the street…
Marked ¼ Mile on Global Reach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG8RoxaV6ks
25 MPH 2nd gear role:
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Dyno Pull 7k RPM 475 RWHP/ 433 RWTQ N/A:
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Nice!
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
ok we need some track times now.
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Hey Brian, this is the little Coupe you were talking about....great numbers on the motor! How's the crew and family?
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December 18th, 2008, 09:35 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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ok we need some track times now.
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You got that RIGHT!!! Just waiting for the weekend and hoping the weather holds.
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December 18th, 2008, 09:36 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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Hey Brian, this is the little Coupe you were talking about....great numbers on the motor! How's the crew and family?
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Hey Sam, yes this was my little small block project finally coming alive. We made a few hits already and it seems to really like the RPM. We'll see if it can stick it and run the numbers this weekend at the shootout if the weather permits.
Hope the little green monster in AZ is doing well.
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December 18th, 2008, 09:39 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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What kind of altenator is that? |
SN95 sir. We utilize these for the higher amp output and easy replacement at almost all the parts stores if you need one on the weekend. Easy conversion with only a small bit of wiring. They seem to work really well with all the electronics we utilize like the Elec Water Pump, Elec Fans, Elec Fuel Pumps, etc.
Billet Bracket that is adjustable is from March Products. I can post the part number if needed.
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December 28th, 2008, 11:33 AM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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Originally Posted by Texas_Hot_Rods
SN95 sir. We utilize these for the higher amp output and easy replacement at almost all the parts stores if you need one on the weekend. Easy conversion with only a small bit of wiring. They seem to work really well with all the electronics we utilize like the Elec Water Pump, Elec Fans, Elec Fuel Pumps, etc.
Billet Bracket that is adjustable is from March Products. I can post the part number if needed.
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Thanks! Got the alt and bracket from March. Is there a diagram floating around out there illustrating the rewire?? TIA
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December 28th, 2008, 11:46 AM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
If you dont already have the bracket I have the complete setup off of my 83 including a 3G alternator I am willing to sell for $200. It is missing the Alternator pulley, but still charges fine at idle.
Here's a link to an installation writeup.
http://www.corral.net/tech/maintenance/130a-tech.html
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February 7th, 2009, 10:08 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
back from the dead... did you make any passes yet? Also do you have to run the march alt pulley with that kit?I have that kit minus the alt pulley and the 38in belt in veeerry clost to touching together at the idler,Iam using the stock alt.also.
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March 2nd, 2009, 11:19 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
Well, we finally made it out to the track for some TNT times. Considering we're at 4200 ft actual elevation (6000+ DA) we're pleased with the very first pass out on the new combo. Thanks again to all that helped, we'll be trying our luck again this weekend if weather holds with the rear adjustable suspension and anti roll (pass was made with stock replacement non adjustable uppers and lowers)
60 ft's on the un prepped track were sorry 1.6's but at least it was consistent with 3 hits as follows:
1st pass 10.854 @ 127.19 1.637 60 ft 4k rpm launch 10 psi
2nd pass 10.897 @ 127.84 1.722 60 ft 4.5k rpm launch 10 psi
3rd pass 10.857 @ 128.20 1.655 60 ft 3.8k rpm launch 10 psi
Let us know what you think...and yes I slept at the tree (trying to make sure I had the RPM where I wanted it, we still chased him down! Turbo Civic running 23 psi @ 2200 lbs)
First N/A 347 Pass 10.85 @ 127!
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/M...-vs_639094.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe8P5lMeRI
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March 3rd, 2009, 01:13 AM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
nice runs. couple of questions though. do you have the car tuned or are u working onit. those track times are very typical for a low buck 347 with fuel inj and a hr cam. i think ur missing something. are u running on dr tires? what is the weight of the car. i hate people who do this but my car is a 347 with a victor efi and had aanderson n111 hr cam and runs the same times as urs but i run a dr tire. i would junk that jay solid roller and put a big anderson hr or bullet racing hr init. my hr fronm bullet is alot bigger than ur solid roller, i bet it picks up alot. may just need tweeked a bit especially if its ur first passes untuned. keep us posted
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March 3rd, 2009, 01:58 AM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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nice runs. couple of questions though. do you have the car tuned or are u working onit. those track times are very typical for a low buck 347 with fuel inj and a hr cam. i think ur missing something. are u running on dr tires? what is the weight of the car. i hate people who do this but my car is a 347 with a victor efi and had aanderson n111 hr cam and runs the same times as urs but i run a dr tire. i would junk that jay solid roller and put a big anderson hr or bullet racing hr init. my hr fronm bullet is alot bigger than ur solid roller, i bet it picks up alot. may just need tweeked a bit especially if its ur first passes untuned. keep us posted
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If you read his last post, it does mention that he's running in 4,200 ft elevation (6,000DA) so to me I think it's running great!
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March 6th, 2009, 12:41 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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If you read his last post, it does mention that he's running in 4,200 ft elevation (6,000DA) so to me I think it's running great!
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Thats what I am sayin. Once you guys get a good 60' and a good track you are lookin at some pretty impressive passes thats for sure. Very nice build
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March 6th, 2009, 09:47 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
That high of altitude gonna keep the car a little slower. I bet it can run 130..!! Kevin is talking about the MPH, and I bet he did not read the hole post. 127 mph would be a mid 10 pass with a 1.50 60ft. Nice runs!! That Honda is fast! lol
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March 9th, 2009, 12:47 AM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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Originally Posted by flyin2jz
nice runs. couple of questions though. do you have the car tuned or are u working onit. those track times are very typical for a low buck 347 with fuel inj and a hr cam. i think ur missing something. are u running on dr tires? what is the weight of the car. i hate people who do this but my car is a 347 with a victor efi and had aanderson n111 hr cam and runs the same times as urs but i run a dr tire. i would junk that jay solid roller and put a big anderson hr or bullet racing hr init. my hr fronm bullet is alot bigger than ur solid roller, i bet it picks up alot. may just need tweeked a bit especially if its ur first passes untuned. keep us posted
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For reference, BEFORE you talk smack on Jay's stuff, read the post. This was the VERY FIRST pass and was at 4200 actual altitude along with stock style tubular non-adjustable upper/lowers out back.
I know if your roller from Anderson is running 10.80's at sea level then it's far off pace for the Solid Roller we're runing at altitude. Once we do the Pro Series Adjustable rear suspension we'll 60 ft in the low 1.40's. That alone is worth 4 tenths of a sec which would put us in the 10.40's BEFORE the altitude correction. (See the NHRA Elevation Correction Chart Below)
Our corrected passes should be in the following manner:
Best Pass at 4200 ft actual:
10.85 x (4200 ft corrrection)0.9484 = 10.29 ET
128.19 x (4200 ft correction)1.0549 = 135.23 MPH
Now correct for the 60 ft and we're knocking on high nines. My point is please don't knock other's stuff. Good luck with your Anderson roller and maybe we can meet up somwhere in the midwest (St Louis for WFC??) so I can show you up close how Jay's Magic stick works compared to a hyd roller.
P.S. Your sig says 352?? That's alot of stroke or is it a big bore?
NHRA uses correction factors to equal the playing field for racers across the country. A car racing at an elevation of 4500' will have a slower ET and MPH than a similar car at a track with an elevation of 1000'. For example, let's assume your car, at your local track with an elevation of 4500', runs 13 sec. in the 1/4 mile. If you were to race your car at a different track with an elevation of 1500', your ET would be considerably better. Correction factors tell you what your ET and MPH would be at sea level. Taking both car's ET's and correcting them to sea level allows for a very accurate comparison of performance.To correct your ET and MPH to sea level, simply find the elevation of your track and multiply your ET and MPH by the corresponding correction factor.
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March 9th, 2009, 12:54 AM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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Thats what I am sayin. Once you guys get a good 60' and a good track you are lookin at some pretty impressive passes thats for sure. Very nice build
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Thanks a84stang and 408wna, it's soooooo hard running at elevation as everyone overlooks our performances in correlation to sea level tracks. The high desert sucks the life out of our stuff so we really have to step it up to run in the 10's. I'm confident that we can still get this little black rocket in the low 10's with the suspension and full slicks. Once we get it dialed I'll have some more vids and then we'll try to make a trip to San Antonio or somewhere flat n low for some showtime slips!
I can't wait to see what she'll light the boards up with when we dial the 60 ft's down to 1.40's or better!
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March 9th, 2009, 11:50 AM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
Nice runs! We complain about +1500 DA around here LOL......................some people tend to hate on things they dont get...............again, Good Job!
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March 9th, 2009, 12:19 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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Thanks a84stang and 408wna, it's soooooo hard running at elevation as everyone overlooks our performances in correlation to sea level tracks. The high desert sucks the life out of our stuff so we really have to step it up to run in the 10's. I'm confident that we can still get this little black rocket in the low 10's with the suspension and full slicks. Once we get it dialed I'll have some more vids and then we'll try to make a trip to San Antonio or somewhere flat n low for some showtime slips!
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I feel your pain. I used to live and race in Albuquerque and not only did we have a dusty no traction makin' track -- we had 5700ft DA all the time. Then I moved to Dallas and ran at Ennis. Thought I had the nitrous on the first time!
Come check out the new IHRA track in Dallas (Dallas Raceway) which is all concrete. Scheduled to open late spring... should be fun!
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March 9th, 2009, 02:40 PM
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Re: Finished Coupe Solid 347 Stroker **VIDS**
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I feel your pain. I used to live and race in Albuquerque and not only did we have a dusty no traction makin' track -- we had 5700ft DA all the time. Then I moved to Dallas and ran at Ennis. Thought I had the nitrous on the first time!
Come check out the new IHRA track in Dallas (Dallas Raceway) which is all concrete. Scheduled to open late spring... should be fun! |
That's the perfect analogy! I grew up in St Louis and was among the first couple stangs down the new track when they refurbished a while back. Then I move to El Paso and thought all my stuff was running on 5 cylinders! It's amazing how quick the cars feel when we run NMRA in PHX at 1500 ft let alone Dallas (FFW) or SA Raceway.
Thanks again for all the support and kind words. I love to constantly read this site as it's the No Bull-**** version of how these Fabulous Fords get it done. The vids and open discussion on what works save alot of members $$ and time in getting the right stuff first time around.
I'll try to have some more vids up if the weather clears this week.
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